WVM2010-17
July 5 NOTES
July 19 AGENDA
Calendar to July 31

by Carolanne Reynolds, Editor
www.WestVan.org

Is summer finally here?
IN THIS ISSUE:
MAIN ITEMS  Ccl Mtg July 19: a LOOOOOONG closed session (from 3pm); NSh Restorative Justice Society Annual Report; 2009 Annual Report and Budget Amendments FOR PUBLIC INPUT; DVP Applics for 2972 Park Lane, 925 Sentinel, 1395 Haywood; BCFerries Non-Enforcement of Noise Bylaw Jul 23 - 25; Animal Control/Licence Bylaw; Cemetery Regs/Fees; OCP Amendment for Housing Pilot Prog and Sec Stes Fees/Charges Bylaws for Adoption.
Wdn't you like to know about letters that cd/shd be on the agenda for discussion?
Amendment/Cancellation of (Residential) Land Use Contracts?
The property tax gap info re residences and businesses in Ms by CFIB?
Response by DWV to protection of our glass sponge reefs?
E-Comm 911 Report on the millions of taxpayer dollars it spends?
(Some rather angry letters from dog-owners, rather unfortunate.)
Information from ADRA on its aims and submissions?
Lead-up to UBCM in September -- what will DWV's positions be on the issues? 
...We have to know about them to provide input to Ccl so they can take our views to the conference.
=  Vive le Canada (New GG); from the EDITOR'S DESK (DWV SALARIES; DWV FINANCE; WV popn stats; not counting the Police Dept, 29 staff made over $100K in 2008; up to 65 in 2009), then Correspondence; UPDATES (Infrastructure: plans/costs); E-Policing Alert -- Suspects to Identify
=  CALENDAR to July 31st; CULTUREWATCH (Theatre, Art, Music, Photography)
=  Ccl Mtg NOTES July 5th: Dogs on-leash; 2385 Haywood and 5618 Westport add'ns to H Register; OCP Amendment for Housing Pilot Prog (to third reading); Sec Stes Annual Fees (three readings); 2900block Rosebery paving bylaw: HRA for 2055 Queens
=  Ccl Mtg AGENDA July 19th
=  ANIMALWATCH (BC Wildlife; white ravens; camel culture; rat pups); SALMONWATCH (DFO Police; Aquaculture Regulations); INFObits (Dalai Lama; Nelson Mandela); WEBWATCH (catfish/basa); NEWSWATCH (Gaza photos); HERITAGEWATCH (b c binning house tours; RoyalTea-by-the-Sea); MAIKU; QUOTATIONS/THOUGHTS/PUNS

===  Vive le CANADA  ===  NEW GG
Legal scholar David Johnston tipped to be new governor general: report
 Canwest News Service July 7, 2010 8:50 PM
OTTAWA - Prime Minister Stephen Harper has picked legal scholar David Johnston to be Canada's next governor general, it was reported Wednesday.
The bilingual president of the University of Waterloo is set to become the Queen's next representative in Canada in September, CTV said during its nightly newscast.
Johnston, 69, is known for his non-partisan status and extensive legal background.
He holds a bachelor's degree from Harvard, a law degree from Queen's University in Kingston, Ont., and another from Cambridge in England.
Also a companion of the Order of Canada, Johnston was the head of Montreal's McGill University and a dean at the University of Western Ontario in London, Ont. He has also taught at the University of Toronto and Queen's University.
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Legal+scholar+David+Johnston+tipped+governor+general+report/3248158/story.html#ixzz0t4mR7cvl

===  from the EDITOR'S DESK  ===  Your $$$, then Correspondence
For the Financial reports on the DWV, here's the URL to click on:
http://www.westvancouver.ca/uploadedFiles/Your_Government/Financial_Information/Reports/Financial_Information_Act_Reports/FIA%20report%202009.pdf
                They also have information on contracts let -- to whom and for how much.
+  POPULATION -- Fascinating info re popn estimates -- we even decreased in 2007!:
        2005 - 43,967 (1.43%);
                2006 - 44,272 (0.69%);
                        2007 - 44,097 (-0.40%);
                                2008 - 44,452 (0.81%);
                                        2009 - 44,452 (0.00%)
+  COUNCIL REMUNERATION: Name/Position; Remuneration (plus) Expenses
MAYOR  Goldsmith-Jones, Pam             $ 70,520.40     (S 8,535.35 )
COUNCILLORS
        Evison, Michael            25,046.80    (  4,544.14 )
        Lewis, Michael             24,016.24    (  1,415.89 )
        Panz, Trish                     24,016.24       (     303.80 )
        Smith, Michael             25,312.24    (        -0-   )
        Soprovich, William                 25,046.80    (     866.00 )
        Walker, Shannon            25,312.24    (  1,576.39 )
Total For Mayor and Council    $ 219,270.96  + $ 17,241.57
+  EMPLOYEES ($100K+)
Those making over $75K must be made public and can be found on the DWV website as noted below (Financial Info Report); here is a list of those who received more than $100K last year (however I have removed the names).  Those $120K and higher have been bolded. Note: WVPD is not included, but WVFD is.  Expenses is the second amt.
Captain                 $ 109,794.67
Manager - Park Programs         100,668.63      677.23
Assistant Fire Chief               116,078.06   782.61
Manager - Engineering Services  113,738.65      760.29
Lieutenant                      105,505.08      486.30
Manager - Community Planning    127,028.83      1,652.41
Captain                 109,174.32         610.00
Captain         111,240.19         815.65
Captain                 107.795.17
Superintendent of Maintenance - Transit         103,979.24      180.52
Captain                 107,568.42      480.00
Manager - Community Services    124,858.38      306.68
Equipment Superintendent                101.374.56      1.467.46
Fire Chief                      147,773.48      2,707.99
Manager - Roads & Transportation        123,470.20      4,943.48
Captain                 108,195.44
Assistant Fire Chief            106,056.54      2,605.21
Director, Engineering & Transportation     153,733.68      6,351.51
Assistant Fire Chief            115,856.94      308.61
Director of Library Services    145,371.59      1,734.98
Captain - Fire Prevention       105,151.25      1,381.91
Manager - Information Technology        110,342.37      2,315.89
Captain                 109,728.41
Lieutenant      111,032.09      610.00
Manager - Permits, Inspections and Bylaws       120,768.96      2,386.16
Deputy Director of Human Resources & Payroll Services   118,182.13      5.74
Manager - Sustainability, Environment & Heathy Communities      106,537.52      245.62
Deputy Fire Chief               126,870.15      885.93
Manager - Community Services    111.713.59      1,908.63
Director of Finance             167,028.43      2,700.03
Lieutenant      110,684.92      1,220.00
Captain                 111,906.81
Assistant Fire Chief            118,447.36      1,270.00
Deputy Chief Administrative Officer     170,857.25      1,231.93
Utilities Superintendent - Water        102,275.06      208.40
Captain                 114,469.34      305.00
Captain                 112,586.56      610.00
Assistant Manager - Permits and Inspections     101,091.89      1,942.38
Captain                 111,726.56
Mechanic - Fire         107,666.16      385.73
Manager, Cultural Affairs & Partnerships             106,614.59         1,812.21
Deputy Fire Chief               124,610.20      55.89
Chief Administrative Officer            208,992.15      6,964.53
Manager - Park Operations       102,059.33      1,258.55
Director, Parks & Community Services    127,646.43      2,350.90
Assistant Manager - Building Construction & Contracts   112,628.14      1,334.57
Captain                 105,351.75
Captain                 106,438.36
Assistant Fire Chief            120,055.04      1.365.25
Land And Property Agent 100,749.50      414.76
Transit Manager         112,082.66      2,602.61
Captain         108,324.73
Manager of Legislative Services 114,049.99      630.57
Captain         100,598.06
Lieutenant      106,487.90
Director of Planning, Lands, & Permits          156,229.05      2,702.85
Lieutenant      103,276.64      785.00
Captain         108,325.37
Manager - Development Engineering       117,320.69      289.00
Captain         105,995.44
Roads Superintendent    109,413.60      110.16
Captain         106,574.35
Manager - Revenue & Collections 110,854.25      1,428.38
Manager - Financial Reporting & Accounting      120,100.50      2,916.32

Total For Employees Over $75,000 (Excluding Police)     $ 19,595,974.77   $ 146,028.93
+ WVM Subscriber Email:
David Marley sent his comments also published in NSN:
..., among North Shore municipalities the situation in West Vancouver is particularly acute. A $56 million payroll, up 11% in one year alone, .... The District of West Vancouver spends fully 30% more on salaries and benefits than does the District of North Vancouver, which has almost twice as many residents. This is unacceptable.... 
As employee salaries and benefits make up over 80% of the District's annual operating costs, it's long past time to begin reducing the size of the payroll.

+ Update sent to WVM subscribers June 30 ($ and Letters)
1.  REMUNERATION
As you know, I've always said that Ccl is underpaid and I still hold that view.  With expenses, for 2009 it was $236,512.53.
That's for all our seven politicians put together -- and it's only a bit more than what one mbr of staff is paid.
For the amount of time taken by mbrs of Ccl and the expertise and responsibilities/obligations expected, they definitely ought to be paid more than little over $20K -- a travesty and grossly unfair -- and the mayor's position ought to have a salary of more than $70K, especially when you consider the staff equivalent gets paid three times more!
The seven answer to us; the ~600 staff through the CAO answer to Ccl.
We vote for Ccl to carry out our wishes and their promises (check them off as the term progresses).
The CAO is to make sure the staff carry out Ccl's wishes (and provides Ccl with advice from expertise and experience).
The Report has some charts showing organization, helpful.
The info has remuneration for all employees over $75K (it used to be $50K but list too long so upped it; it still runs several pages and includes the Fire Dept but not the Police).
In 2008 about 30 staff made over $100K,
in 2009 it was more than double, about 65
        -- wanna make bets on the numbers for 2010???
The highest was $209K.
The total remuneration (Ccl, Fire, Police) is ~$57M.
Yup ...and they won't even put your letters back on the agenda..... :-(
anyway, I've been told this will be resolved on Friday, so stay tuned. hoping :-) :-)
Some Comments:
Highest single staff remuneration: ~$210K for 2009; about 65 staff get over $100K -- shudder re 2010!
{... [Employee] remuneration is 80% of the operating budget, and there have been large increases in administration in the last few years.  For example, from a MMgr with a secretary (who also worked for the mayor) some years ago, now administration has grown to two senior executives with more clerical staff -- costing over $500K, over 1% of the budget.  There is no doubt more is being done for us so this is not necessarily a complaint, rather a recommendation for efficiency and review so that there's some control.  The Value for Services questionnaire virtually removed Administration from meaningful evaluation or input since a single answer/rating was asked on the whole $$$ grab-bag of Admin, Finance, Clerk's, etc, whereas Planning and Parks cd be rated separately, on their division alone.
That level of cleverness did not go unnoticed by your Editor.}
2.  CORRESPONDENCE STILL NOT ON THE AGENDA -- the ludicrous becomes farce
See the July 5th ccl mtg transcript in Reports (Sop) and PQP.
Brave Cclr Soprovich, yet again pointed out that it takes several clicks for the public to get to the Correspondence.  The good news is that the Mayor and the MClk admitted somewhat buried and wd look into it but, beggaring belief, one comment to Sop's wanting one click (and finding it more easily or as Ccl does) was in effect the Web doesn't work that way!  "That's how the Web works"!
Sop managed to ask about Correspondence being on the agenda but was brushed off with "that's another question" and discussion ended without dealing with that. 
Swift diversion move, ball knocked out of his hand.
Even more amazingly risible since so obviously not true was:  "We've put it everywhere we can think of on the website."
Pardon? They haven't heard anyone say back on the agenda under Correspondence where it logically belongs and has been until the recent unannounced disappearing act?
At PQP, and I chose not to respond to it, I was told I come "every week" about the Correspondence.  While close, what is essential to note is that little by little in response, from nowhere, to strange places, and most recently a footnote to the page that has the agenda and minutes, we've inched closer to restoring the Correspondence, having a list for residents to see the topics that are mtg material Ccl just scroll down to see (but we can't scroll down and don't even see the list on the ccl mtg agenda).
We're so close now!  We need four ccl mbrs who want Correspondence back on the agenda.  How many can you count on?

===  UPDATES  ===  Infrastructure Management Plan
The need to replace infrastructure is a challenge facing all municipalities, and West Vancouver is no exception. By developing a long-term Infrastructure Management Plan, the District will be able to address future needs in an efficient, cost-effective manner.  As the planning process continues in 2010, public input will be sought. Regular updates will be posted online as they become available.  For further info, pls contact the Engineering & Transportation Division at 925 7039.
Technical Reports   and  Infrastructure Information Panels, June 2010 (27.4 MB)
=== E-POLICING ALERT ===
WVPD -- Suspects To Identify @ wvpd.ca
Date: 2010 July 14       Contact: Cst Kellie English       Telephone:  925 7349
West Vancouver Police thank you for your ongoing attention to the "Suspects To Identify" page of our website.  We have new suspects to identify and need your help.
Please review all images at the link below and contact the named investigators if you are able to assist.
wvpd.ca/breaking-stories/296-suspects-to-identify-can-you-help-us
A cash reward of up to $2,000.00 will be paid for any info that leads to an arrest and charge. If you have any information please call Crime Stoppers at: 1-800-222-TIPS (8477) or by visiting the Crime Stoppers website.

===  CALENDAR to July 31st  ===
All mtgs are at M Hall unless indicated otherwise.  NOTE: shown are mtgs known at this date; often there are additions, changes, cancellations after WVM goes out.  Notices/mtgs/changes too late for the last WVM are sent to subscribers as updates.  Check the DWV Calendar: http://www.westvancouver.ca/Calendar.aspx
Dundarave (Saturdays) and Ambleside (Sundays) Farmers' Markets are back!

***  A sparkling gem in Vancouver's summer crown: July 21, 24, 28, 31  ***
 http://www.celebration-of-light.com/
== Wed July 21
        ~ 5pm ~ Awards Cmte mtg
        ~ 7pm ~ Bd of Variance in Ccl Chamber (but Library Bd mtg CANCELLED, was July 14)
== Thurs July 22
        ~ 4:30pm ~ Design Review Cmte
        ~ 5:30pm ~ WV Police Bd mtg in WVPD boardroom
== Sunday July 25
~ 11am - 3pm ~ Dog Washes!  The WV SPCA holds a dog wash on the last Sunday of the month
   Cost = $20 per dog. Owners can enjoy free coffee and a tour of the shelter while their dogs get cleaned up!
== Thursday July 29  ~ 5pm ~ NSh Cmte on Disability Issues mtg CANCELLED
=== Friday July 30
             Harmony Arts Festival starts, see http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=26032
=== Saturday July 31 from 2 - 4pm in Dundarave Park
           RoyalTea-by-the-Sea ~~ See http://www.royaltea.ca/ ph 922 4400; reservations@RoyalTea.ca

+++  WV MEMORIAL LIBRARY +++  www.westvanlibrary.ca/event/calendar.php
The Library is closed Sundays in July and August.
        Mon - Thurs 10am - 9pm; Fri - 10am - 6pm; Saturday - 10am - 5pm
+++  WV MUSEUM  +++  Visit:  http://www.westvanmuseum.blogspot.com/
***  MASTER OF THE INSTANT   ~~ to August 28
Cartier-Bresson Photographs from the National Gallery of Canada & Lionel Thomas - Abstractions 1949 - 1990
[July10 home tour was in WVM Update]
 +++  FERRY BUILDING GALLERY  +++  http://ferrybuildinggallery.com/  925 7290
North Shore Artists' Guild "paints" ~~ July 11 to 25 -- Mixed Media Exhibition
Artists in Attendance: Sat July 17 at 2pm
***  Salsa by the Sea is every Thursday 6:30 - 8:30 until August 26th.
At Ambleside Landing behind the Ferry Building Gallery
All ages with all levels of dance experience are welcome!  $6 Drop-in Fee
+++ SILK PURSE +++  www.silkpurse.ca  925 7292
*  July 13 - 25  --  "Up Up and Away"
Over 14 professional Lower Mainland artists generate dozens of new works related to astronomy and the space theme. Various media will include acrylic, oils, pastels, watercolour, graphite, and/or textiles, exploring the territory where science and art overlap -- depicting scenes which are at present beyond the range of human eyes, they communicate a binding dream of adventure and exploration!
*  July 27 - August 8  --  Trioscapes in Harmony
During the Harmony Arts Festival the Silk Purse finds friendship and community front and centre as three artists:
Betty Ditters, Sachiyo Grossmann, and Jean Vanderley exhibit their "Trioscapes". Each artist has a unique interpretation of the landscape. Although there are often discussions between the three as they critique designs and exchange ideas. These artists assist and inspire on another!
Opening Reception: WEDNESDAY July 28th from 6 - 9pm
+++ KAY MEEK CENTRE +++
Complete list of events: http://kaymeekcentre.com/on_stage/events_calendar
Electronic newsletter: http://kaymeekcentre.weebly.com
Simplest way to get on email list, call 913 3634 or email tickets@kaymeekcentre.com
+++ ROYAL CANADIAN LEGION BRANCH 60, West Vancouver +++
The newsletter is available to any interested non-member.  Pls fill in the form on the webpage, http://www.westvan60.com/newsletter.html  Pls contact Janice Mackay-Smith to submit articles, questions, comments for The Torch.
+++  WV CHAMBER OF COMMERCE  +++ http://www.westvanchamber.com

===  CULTUREWATCH  ===
*  THEATRE
+ BARD ON THE BEACH ~~ Tel 739 0559 ~~ www.bardonthebeach.org
TERRIFIC SEASON -- MAKE SURE YOU SEE ALL FOUR! TWO HUMOROUS, TWO DRAMAS
- Much Ado About Nothing -- fun with a touch of flamenco in Dean Paul Gibson's production.  John Murphy's timing is so good and funny (reminds me a bit of John Cleese), and Jennifer Lines is suitably adamant against marriage as well.
Antony and Cleopatra is an absolute tour de force!  Gripping.  Jennifer Lines is brilliant, Andrew Wheeler tortured by choices, Simon Bradbury dramatic (after clowning in Ado).  Clean, clear direction by Scott Bellis.
- FALSTAFF (Henry IV, Parts I and II)
He's a rogue, but you can't help but love him! He's Shakespeare's most endearing and brilliant comedic scoundrel -- FALSTAFF.  Bard's exciting new adaptation, which distils the essential Falstaff story from Shakespeare's Henry IV, Parts I&II.
Dean Paul Gibson is the rotund rogue and it's simply a tour de force; Alessandro Juliani is moving as Prince Hal in transition; and Rob Frazer, the hunk as Hotspur (Hotpants in the Chippendale -- that's unfair b/c I happen to think he's a great actor too).  Opening Night (Wed Jul 6) got a standing noisy ovation.  There's an incredible sequence with emotions going from fierce fighting to death to farce.
-  Henry V opened July 18 -- compelling performance by Alessandro Juliani.  He was the son of Henry IV in Falstaff and now is King.  It's Shakespeare's sixth longest play.
+ Arts Club (tel 687 1644)
The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee by William Finn, Granville Island Stage held over to Aug 21 
+ Jericho Arts Centre
-- Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare, directed by Tariq Leslie, July 2 - 24
Wed through Sun 8 pm; Tickets $15 - $20; www.williamshakespearestwelfthnight.com
Wednesdays Pay-What-You-Will; For reservations or call 604 224 8007, ext. 3
+  Dr Sun Yat Sen Classical Chinese Garden - 662 3207
        China Tea Deal presented by Seven Tyrants Theatre, 7:30pm June 19 - Aug 29
+  Metro Theatre  tel 266 7191
        Twentieth Century by Ken Ludwig to July 17
+  Waterfront Theatre tel 685 1731
        The rock musical Hair, July 21 to Aug 1st;
+  Theatre Under the Stars (TUTS)
-- to Aug 20. Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat and Singin' in the Rain; ph 734-1917
* MUSIC
        Vancouver Early Music Festival starts July 25: http://www.earlymusic.bc.ca/
* ART
+ Vancouver Art Gallery -- JUNE 5 - SEPTEMBER 6
THE MODERN WOMAN: Drawings by DEGAS, RENOIR, TOULOUSE-LAUTREC, and other masterpieces from the Musee d'Orsay.  Tel 662 4700; visit http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/
* PHOTOGRAPHY  --  CAG: Fall Exhibitions
Caroun Art Gallery is going to announce the exhibitions, which will be held before November 2010, in Canadian Gallery Magazines and Preview (The Gallery Guide) before July 22.  Artists, who wants to have an exhibition in September and October 2010, need to register before July 25.
To visit programs:  Individual and group exhibitions: http://www.caroun.com/CarounArtGallery/Exhibitions/00-Exhibitions.html
Call for artists: http://www.caroun.com/CarounArtGallery/Calls/00-Calls.html
Masoud Soheili, Caroun Art Gallery (CAG), www.Caroun.net

===  CCL MTG NOTES July 5th ===
6pm in MHall Main Floor Conference Room; 7pm ccl mtg in chamber
Note:  At 6pm the reg Cci Mtg will commence in open session and will be immediately followed by a motion to exclude the public in order to hold a closed session, pursuant to section 90 of the Cmnty Charter.
6:00 PM
1.  CALL TO ORDER OPEN SESSION
2.  EXCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC
RECOMMENDED: THAT in the public interest, members of the public be excluded from part of the July 5 reg Ccl Mtg on the basis of matters to be considered under the following section of the Community Charter:
90. (1) A part of a ccl mtg may be closed to the public if the subject matter being considered relates to or is one or more of the following:
b.  personal information about an identifiable individual who is being considered for a municipal award or honour, or who has offered to provide a gift to the municipality on condition of anonymity;
c.   labour relations or other employee relations;
d.   the security of the property of the municipality;
g.   litigation or potential litigation affecting the municipality;
i.    the receipt of advice that is subject to solicitor-client privilege, including communications necessary for that purpose;
(k) negotiations and related discussions respecting the proposed provision of a municipal service that are at their preliminary stages and that, in the view of the council, could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the municipality if they were held in public.
3. Council will then proceed with the closed session.  At its conclusion, the ccl mtg follows.
7:00 PM
4.  RECONVENE OPEN SESSION
Mayor: an announcement: our Annual Report is available at M Hall and on the District's website, and will be considered at Ccl's July 19th mtg. I'll ask Cclr Walker for a motion to that effect.
{SW makes motion for consideration of the Annual Report with submissions and questions from the public}
5.  APPROVAL OF AGENDA -- done
6.  MINUTES --  adopted as circulated: June 21, 2010 Regular Ccl Mtg; and June 28, 2010 PH.
REPORTS
7. Results of Community Consultation Process: Proposal to Permit Dogs On-Leash on the Seawalk (File:  2150-06)
RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. the report dated June 29, 2010 titled "Results of Community Consultation Process: Proposal to Permit Dogs On-Leash on the Seawalk" be received for information; and
2. based on the results of the public consultation, no changes be made to the Animal Control Bylaw from 13th Street west to Dundarave Park;
3. Council direct Staff to bring forward an amendment to the Animal Control Bylaw to allow dogs to be on leash along designated routes through Ambleside Park set out in the report dated June 29, 2010 from the Senior Manager of Parks and as indicated in the map attached to the report as Appendix A;
4. that appropriate signage be erected to clearly identify the areas where dogs on-leash and off-leash are permitted in Ambleside Park and along the Seawalk and that an appropriate communication strategy be undertaken.
Mayor: before we start want to thank everybody for full participation; a lot of public input; obviously a lot of passion; hope we can have a really good conversation -- passionate, matters to everybody; know how much we value our individ resp and our shared resp to figure this out for the benefit of the whole cmnty.
AMooi: report includes feedback from consultation.
Andrew Banks, Parks Mgr: brief presentation on results
Seawalk, walkway from 25th east to Sq Nations, off-leash park
[SLIDES, MAP]
Dundarave -- Centennial seawalk from 24th to 18th
orange line is leash route and blue is the dog walk
enter onto Argyle on 18th, stay on Argyle, a leash-dog route to Ambleside Park
Amb Park divided into Spirit Trail (leash-dog route) to dog off-leash area; I have a proposed route behind the concession area and behind the playground area to the Amb off-leash area/Sq Nations
consultation process enthusiastic
[SLIDE with TABLE or results]
Online Questionnaire 2,343 responses; handwrittten 6; letters/emails 143; phone calls 187; onsite questionnaires 838; onsite followup comment forms 3
total input: 3,520
Overall Summary: approx half support and half oppose dogs on the seawalk
90% of emails and letters oppose
84% of the phone calls oppose
62% of the 838 onsite surveys oppose
online questionnaire  ...  Key themes
for those in favour: walking dogs promotes healthy life style/cmnty; safety for women; public spaces shd be shared by all; dogs shd be permitted as they are in other cmnties
for those opposed: seawalk is too crowded; hazardous to the elderly and small chn; irresponsible owners, out-of-control dogs and waste; lots of other areas for dogs on the NSh
After viewing the cmnty input, recommendations made, no changes to animal control bylaw west of 13th...
{see motions above}
suggest DWV produce leaflets and pamphlets; education; confusion wrt signage
Next steps
overriding response: District has to enhance communication; improved signage for clarity; improved enforcement; consider input for consideration by Parks Master Plan WG
Mary Charette: dog and non-dog owners have something in common, live together, and deserve respect
from letters appears ppl do not understand why we're doing this
seawalk confusing dogs and no dogs
off-leash dogs can run out of one of the eight openings and one old woman broken wrist b/c dog jumped at her; five have run onto railway tracks 7:13
'dogs use at their own risk sign' but dogs can't read
seeking soln acceptable to all
David Adams: in WV for over 50 years, enjoyed it ever since created
three things I particularly valued about WV: small town atmosphere, second access to the sea (long been a boater but now I sit there and admire); thirdly to share views with you face to face, over the telephone, or in this Chamber
old 20th century saying, if it ain't broke don't fix it
the response before you in that report emphatically says to you, the cmnty as a whole notwithstanding 500, leave it to be enjoyed by ppl on their feet
pleased to see Parks Dept sees that and now accepts that
leave it alone
only thing that concerns me, ends up by talking about balance
maybe he's still prepared to review this one more time
imp you see these numbers
90% of those who wrote letters opposed, 85% who phoned were opposed
one ref in the consultant's report, not referred to in the Mgr's report, consulting firm put numbers together, caution by Nancy Spooner -- ppl who are computer savvy cd make representation more than once so if you see many, cd be xxx
Mayor: just about able to wrap up your comments?
DA: one constructive
helpful to dog owners instead of spending more money for a consultant put gates on those openings
distraught owners, at every opening, then everyone can relax
I'm confident you well recogn, whereas this pressure group speaks for 500 ppl you speak for more than 44K
emphatically, don't spend any more money, except staff, clearly leave seawall as it is
confident you will not let the seawall go to the dogs.
Cathy Gunn: just want to say, as a dog owner, and a responsible dog owner, I don't want anyone's access to be impeded
unfortunate that a pilot project is not allowed, whether two hours when we come home for work, go for a walk with our husbands
concrete info to proceed with
Elizabeth deYoung: all enjoy WV is not blinded by lights, not allowed on seawall, where can I walk my dog safely at night?
PJ Persons (?): lived in WV 35 years, but never at Hall before
number of ppl in survey, it was easy to override and vote more than once
survey not statistically proper; only one course at Cap 100 years; ways to do that, random
representing 40K, 500 using computer
don't think we have an idea from that survey about using or not using seawall
no prob seawall with dog
called, told daytime b/c coyotes at night time and my little dog is dinner
horrified looking out my window seeing train coming down track, dog frozen in horror, she ran out and grabbed collar just as train passed
dos on-leash same danger
same with John Lawson
my dog wants to join with picnickers no matter wch side
nearly got someone's lunch
certainly see plenty of poop on the dog walk
more money for someone to pick up b/c we can't pick up on the dog walk
have a decent survey, walk at night, or fence so dogs can't get on tracks
dogs crawl under the fence, mine does all the time
don't need someone down there, walkers all say, your dogs not supposed to be there
Wayne Dowler (sp?): Westport 40 years; definitely opposed to dogs on the seawalk
signage prob; start from west and work my way east along the seawall
signs are up and they are in violation of the existing bylaw -- says no
sign: barring dogs going any further into Dundarave Park
DPark has a min of 12 signs, no, and then at end sign says dog must be leashed on the seawall 24th?
to 19th cd keep walking with no signs to 18th, so sign shd be put up there
3rd, at 18th signage v good, no dogs allowed
some concerns with the report, major, first report, apr 15; cleared up on June 29 report
concerns re area referred to as "new waterfront pathway from JLawson Park east to 15th" wondering where the start and finish of John Lawson Park is
look at map, looks 18th St to don't know
house just came down, adding to JL Park? don't know boundaries
no change to bylaws for whole area 13th to Dund
Mayor: that's the recommendation
WD: have more
Mayor: go through list and come back
WD: works for me
Alexandra Steele: long-term resident; agree 100% with what the two gentlemen said
ev in my area all agree, dogs have rights to all the streets in all NSh
so full, don't want on sea wall; some afraid, some allergic
dogs don't need the view, have many places
JLPark says dogs not allowed but always dogs there signs small and ppl don't believe it
Harmony Arts, dogs there, can't move; patrol during that festival
what's the point of a bylaw if no penalties
if fines you'd make thousands and thousands of dollars
is there a new route where the soccer field is?
A Banks Parks staff: proposing to use the existing sidewalk east of 13th north of concession; small pathway to join up sea walk east of the concession area
AS: not where sandy beaches? good
last, if this referendum, do not bring up
dog group gets louder and louder; give an inch they take mile, bigger and bigger
seawall for the ppl, the ppl need the view
Bill Reid: have two dogs so put me in that column
some controversy a couple of years ago b/c washroom not accessible so a woman wd not be able to visit washroom without tying up the dog and walking ....
know two of those re train tracks, it's not safe and shdn't be permitted
dog has cognitive ability of a two-year-old and wdn't put a child near
seemed evenly split, so tough, so hope look for some compromises time of today, time of week
says in reports balancing of ...
pretty well-educated so can...
greater focus on education, sign, and enforcement
as for enforcement, don't feel included in that remark
pretty divided opinion, hope some compromise
Simon Lucas: Tower Hill; congratulating you on the report of 26th not allowing it to pass without proper public consultation; in fact quite alarmed when I heard some of the comments at the last mtg that this shd just be allowed to pass; clearly not the case, so congratulations to all of you for stopping and allowing process to proceed democratically as it shd
some comments on the statistical survey, or rather the non-statistical survey questionnaire; have some professional qualifications in this area; and I'd like to make v clear that the earlier comments around the lack of statistical viability for the questionnaire are absolutely true.
it is not statistically valid, I repeat not statistically valid
there are many ways that survey can be padded or distorted, and if indeed, as one of the earlier speakers pointed out, you wanted to get a good clear idea of what the right numbers are, then you wd need to do a scientific, methodologically structured, study.
One of the things that in fact you shd be concerned about is that the ratios in that survey are v different from the ratios you see in the phone calls and in the letters, thus indicating there is some significant difference in what's going on.
so interpret that with great caution
My second round of comments, I'd like to address the proposal actually itself
one of the things that struck me in the questionnaires and the letters was in fact the depth of feeling that came out in a number of comments
a little surprised to see so few comments in favour of this proposal given the strength of the lobby group referred to
that perhaps is illustrative of the depth of feeling that exists and the reasons ppl gave for opposing this particular idea
summarize briefly
comments v v consistent: hygiene, congestion, public safety, lack of enforcement, potential thin end of the wedge; if dogs then why not bicyclists, skateboarders
if apply consistent philosophy for the sea walk, shd consider this in broader context of other users who have legitimate claims to that particular piece of real estate.
also struck by number of other ppl who commented around why bother b/c no one takes any notice anyway
I'll return to that theme in a minute
Mayor: quickly
SL: as I look at comments, cd not help conclude some v clear and good reasons to view the Centennial sea walk as a rather unique environment; jewel of WV's crown, had this approach v successfully implemented for many years; clearly something ppl feel v strongly about preserving for ppl to go without not necessarily being bothered about dogs wch they may be afraid of or allergic to,...
Mayor: concluding remarks?
SL: this also brought up a much bigger issue
you have a lot of bylaws, supposed to restrict dog access, be it leashed or unleashed
you have signs that are supposed to inform ppl, and while many v resp dog owners who wd make sure they adhered to these regulations if they knew about them, the reality is there are also many irresponsible dog owners, and many many comments in the questionnaires refer to this
if Ccl were to go ahead and allow more dog access, essential you put in place a decent enforcement prog
well-intentioned as many dog owners may be, others are not, and simply will not adhere without enforcement
thank you
Linda Watt: what we forgot to do, when handing in petition, has 1000 names of dog owners
v contentious issue; resident for 37 years, young when I came here, soon to be a senior in Amb/Dund, and hope to live here for another 20 years as does Cclr Sop
hope to have a small dog
like to walk my dog unleashed at certain time periods on the seawall, really like to see time periods, not all the time
on Cmnty Day, booth about dogs, on-leash, under control, and picked-up-after
fun day; opp to meet many dog and non-dogowners; great discussions about a possible pilot proj for on-leash dogwalking on the seawall
three topics always mentioned: agreed by all that the major prob areas are unpickedup dog faeces, off-leash dogs in on-leash areas, and bylaw and enforcement issues
no visible bylaw presence on the seawall
ppl quite like seeing park rangers in summer; leaves nine months when a few irresponsible dogowners simply do what they want
nice to see a more consistent approach; perhaps bylaw ofcrs walking xxx areas ev day
is it possible to have an independent third-party review of this issue?
Some of us also attended the WVM mtg hosted by Carolanne Reynolds at the Library and heard an excellent presentation by Mr Fung on the infrastructure where we had the opp to listen to a pleasant and informative talk with Cclr Sop and Cclr Lewis
Cclr Sop then mentioned that the First Nations ppl wd be building a condo devt behind the Park Royal shopping ctr.
Then the lights went out and we were left in the dark and had to leave.
Cclr Sop, when this devt occurs will the off-leash dog park still exist?
and if not, is there a contingency plan?
I think a 1000 signed petition compared with phone calls says quite a lot about our, we want to be accepted in the cmnty, and included in the cmnty.
thank you
Rebecca Black: owner of two dogs
disappoints me a little was that the survey you did was flawed
not effective tool in the cmnty looking for a solution in our cmnty
my understanding, we're all about inclusion, not exclusion
by drawing lines in the sand, xxx
dogs come up, ppl separated
a couple of years some concessions granted from 13th to dog park in Amb and appears that will be taken away, seawall walk; works quite nicely most of the year
no one on the beach nine months of the year; v gd work
most of the time by dogwalkers
asked for a trial period
if you don't want to come to this again
popn of dogs is growing in leaps and bounds; not like 20 years ago
ask you to use good judgement, take your time, not a compromise but a good soln that includes everyone
Jenn ?: in support of the Parks staff's proposal not to change the sea walk bylaw
since the Apr proposal there have been changes
dogwalkers with leash dogs, more common
{from gallery: TRUE}
walking, have to keep eyes down to avoid stepping in, never been my experience
assaulted verbally by dogwalkers CERTAIN they are allowed to be there
respectfully suggest proper signage, not reverse
need to include park wardens daily patrolling the next few moths at east to inform
misinformation, wd like it to be a way and acting that way
wd like to see a face to face with a park warden, I don't want to be on the front line
reluctant to take a walk
conflict and tension between ppl, truth is it's really crowded
can't see how enforcing a certain time period wd work
the Apr proposal, unleashed -- take steps to restore peace
John Lane: live in WV, for 19 years
opposed to dogs on sea walk, in favour of current proposals of Parks
a jewel, pls don't change it
three points: many uncomfortable frail or fearful -- even with boisterous dogs on leash
jogs, difficult to dodge a dog; difficult to jump over leash
even when owners pick up there's always residue
clean unspoiled pedestrian walkway, it's working
Patricia Mear-Henderson: sorry didn't expect to come up so quickly
{handing over something ?}
Mayor: address Ccl
PM-H: am going to go back
you've seen what's in my life now
I grew up here as did my parents and grandparents
Sentinel, our motto, make the world a better place
Langley in acreage, 30 years; married to a senior
Mayor: helpful to take the seat
PM-H: never been here, maybe shd be a preacher
three years ago, adopted small dogs; had a reason for getting out
if you've suffered from depression, arthritis, xxx, and this morning, lupus
I'm going to be 57 next month not expected this
Mandela [said] the biggest weapon you can wield is forgiveness
went to xxx
sentence out of Lord's Prayer
all of us are going to stumble, my dogs too  ...
so xxx ... 25th and Lawson
so lucky walk out door, talk; can't tell me how many make eye contact with me
elderly ppl; my husband was a senior
as a widow, you can go months without a hug xxx ...
just want to walk past you for a few seconds, not xxx
on leash, go a lot ev day; 4:30 yesterday, Sun, cd hv shot a cannon
2:30 Sat, where are the hordes?
been 10 o'clock at night
not pleasant to meet curmudgeonly
widow
are they real dogs?
we had St Bernards when my husband...
[walks about and demonstrates]
walk like this; walk and smile
sorry
was educated in Britain after high school
hope we can all get along; surely, erudite, there's a way
don't want to change your life
thx much.  God Bless
Mayor: no one else one to come back?
Wayne ?: assume John Lawson Park starts at 18th St
looks like JLPark's been extended and no dogs allowed
to Millennium Park, no idea status of dogs
Mayor: rec no, on-leash on Argyle
Wayne ?: as far as Amb right now two signs, say you can walk dogs from 13th to leash area
contrary to bylaw
N side of concession stands; far east end, same proposal as 2007 as an interim measure, then let go
signs are still there, will have to be removed
as far as off-leash area, serious concerns; my wife had an incident with a dog some years ago and still going to physio
Mayor: others want to speak
Wayne ?: worried about legal aspect in unregulated area, supposedly no jurisdiction but signs there
got a letter WV no jurisdiction, bylaws do not apply
yet we're allowing ppl to go into that area
sure we'd have an assumed liability
within the area, signs quoting the WV bylaws inside the Indian Reservation? area
? Sheppard: Chairlift, an on-and-off resident for 60 years
prior to this not so many signs or so any with so many probs
dogwalker daily at Amb Park, to Sq Reserve, walk there quite often
no problem, dogs don't go on the beach, stay on path
go to free leash area; leave it as.......; leave seawall
Mayor: that's the recommendation
dogs on leash on Amb, sensible path
? Sheppard: saying don't need
no faeces on it; my dogs love it and chn love them
passing
Mayor: not
? Sh: some of us in our old age, re survey; a lot of us computer literate
believe there's still honour in this world and don't think
ppl say obnoxious dogs and I'd say obnoxious ppl
Mayor: shall we go through each rec?
1 - rec'd = PASSED
2 - no change
Sop: know there's a lot of emotion; feel we shd be putting dog owners and ppl
we all love dogs; there's a plea out there
when I look at the seawall, succeeded through six mayors
fenced area where dogs can walk beside hours
with thousands and thousands of ppl over years, not that many ppl
when last had a review of the dogs, some difficult areas -- maybe lack of edu, as dog number increases, make some changes, off leash
we've progressed since then
new in Amb Park, we're progressing in time, desire to add as we go along
majority of time I've walked seawall, I've failed to see why prob if dogs behind fence -- and suddenly all these probs, not seen
leave for ppl, growing passion (had a lab, great to me; walked and enjoyed); places for people to work with dogs, they're not without, the dogs are behind the fence
gates maybe or whatever
shd be a space for ppl without dogs
think this is a good compromise
Ev: looked at report in great detail
surprise staff didn't propose any alternatives
we've discussed, one option between 19th and 24th from dawn to 9am, from 7pm to nightfall
exercised in many jurisdictions
Mayor: wd you like to ask Mr Banks why not a trial?
Ev: yes
Andrew Banks: was made, question was ability to enforce, lacking
Mayor: another question?
Ev: ev bylaw we have has to be enforced no matter what time of day or night
find that a strange reason why not to look at that as an option
combine that with a trial period; don't know it's going to work until had that option
another, mentioned by a number of ppl, ladies in the evening being able to walk in the evening with some comfort and safety
cd if on section 19th to 24th -- that's a question as well
AB: repeat the question
Mayor: cd I?  Perhaps another rationale, safety for women
AB: opening up the Spirit Trail will address that, that allows dogs, will open in May [?]
ML: Cclr Ev must have been at a diff mtg b/c on 26th suggestion for hours but Ccl said didn't have enough info
basically not obvious any need; have nothing to xxx ....
"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Marine Dr xxx all the way to xxx lights and can walk
v much in favour of recommendation in bullet 2
TP: when I decided to run for Ccl ppl warned me about dogs and trees; challenging
in US 75M dogs as pets, we're becoming more urban
trying to find that fine balance
do know that pets add to vitality; respond well to pets in cmnty
also want to thank the WV Dog Assn b/c takes courage to bring this forward
know intent is to come up with a better solns
we are trying; not the one everybody wd wish for
am going to support the second rec, but wd like to discuss in 3rd and 4th, possibility for options
SW: someone initially excited about dogs in
have new puggle 16 weeks old
also do app the massive sentiment that have come forward
ppl and stroller only; a couple of good recommendations
the gates, I do know some who have been run over when dogs run out to meet owners
perhaps opp to put a fence on the north side, to protect them from the trains
if you have a younger dog, quite frightening, discussing
will support this as well, but solns for making dog owners feel safer about their dogs
Mayor: Ccl Sop wishes to speak again, but Cclr Smith, care to weigh in?
MS: happy if Cclr Sop goes first, and then I'll weigh in
Sop: couple of comments on the humorous side
the lady that walked by me called me a grumpy old man -- actually, I'm quite a delight
{laughter}
Mayor: xxx seems to be working for you!
Sop: and I like dogs too, and I have an 11-year-old son, so I'm right in the mix
the other lady, on the thoughts of the Squamish lands, we don't have control over that but I think Ccl now and in the future wd try preserve that area, as you see, interplay down there. quite special; that's all; going to support it
MS: the prob has never been dogs, it's dog owners, and of the dog owners, it's the 2%
it's lowlifes who think the laws don't apply to them; too bad 2% spoil it for 100%
I was on the seawall about a month ago in the evening -- btw I don't think it's fair to imply 19th to 24th only safe area for women, I resent that
Anyway, my story,
There was a lady, walking two dogs, not on-leash, about 9 o'clock at night, and the dogs tripped up a couple of joggers, and I said, in my good civic duty voice: "you realize that you're really not supposed to be here with those dogs, and secondly, they shd be at the very least under you care and control" whereupon she proceeded to tell me to "F off."
at least if it had been a man I cd have smacked him
{laughter}
the reality is, in a civilized place like WV you'd think we'd be able to come up with a, as some of the ppl have said, a pilot project that allows, on a trial basis, dogs to walk on leash after 6 or 7 o'clock in the evening or early in the morning, whenever, pick a time, and it wd work well.
the reality is, we're not comfortable enough that we think we can do that, and when you're dealing with that sea walk, that's our best, by far, cmnty recreational asset.
The only way I think this Ccl can make changes to the sea wall is that if there was broad public consensus to make a change; and here by our own survey, it's split right down the middle, so clearly there's no consensus
So I think that the prevailing wisdom when no consensus is we have to leave the current status quo in place even though I realize that punishes responsible dog owners who cd v comfortably walk their dogs on that sea wall and not cause any problems
Ev: I was going to make a friendly amendment; wd like to have seen this Ccl to engage in a trial period
Mayor: wd you like to make that amendment?
Ev: I think I can prejudge; I'm going to decline
Mayor: I'm going to support and hope staff will take note
signs not consistent, if clear xxx
nobody minds enforcement if clear what right to do
fence, a lot choose not to use it
public health, excrement behind the fence
lot of work to do; improve that part; in subseq motions, say what we are going to try.
Sop moved No 3: xxx to the west of the welcome fig
other route down.... Argyle; other all the way down Pound Road
some said down 13th to off-leash area
last time we were going to have signage did we have?
Mooi: can't speak to past but have noticed signs not consistent and we will address that
Sop: have there been major incidents?
Mooi: Ms Holitzki, bylaw ofcr
Holitzki: major incidents?
Sop: if signs wrong, and used, so
chn playing was there excrement and urine all over the place? what took place?
Holitzki: was a child bit[ten]
otherwise bylaw dept complaints about excrement, xxx
lifeguards phone re dogs on beach, and when asked to move they wdn't so we had to go down
don't have numbers
Sop: will new route stop dogs going into play area
lady using washroom, wd that be an exempt area?
Hol: that's what this new pathway; about dogs breaking free
to date haven't had, last year, no complaints about use of Women washroom
in past complaints about dogs taken inside the washroom
I'm going to support but if a lady tied her dog up and went to washroom, wd she get a ticket?
Holitzki: each one diff; can't say absolutely not
Sop: hope not even considered
Holitzki: mine too
Mayor: what's workable?
SW: imp dogs can walk to reach the dog area rather than drive down
TP: no 3 makes complete sense; really imp to be consistent with edu and enforcement
if we're going to have a bylaw that's effective have ppl out and make sure consistent
good having a park ranger this year
all about managing it and coming up with solns; have to have that piece in place
CARRIED
Mayor: lastly
Sop moved No 4: been comments that staff shd report back to us re enforcement
Mr Banks is new but he's diligent and he'll make sure those signs are in place
safety on the seawall, still having the dog walking behind that fence, have another fence or gates
hope will come from this but don't think it needs a motion
Mayor: no, I don't think so
Ev: what's most important is signage and enforcement
but the fence, important repair; shd have a gate so dog can talk from one end to another but a gate to see; fence important
TP: one more comment; know the next steps moving us into the Parks Master Plan
there are confusing parts to this bylaw; in West, can't walk past a cmnty ctr without contravening a bylaw
other parts, hope address by the Parks WG
Mayor: consensus about faeces removal, signage, ranger
so staff report so can be made better for ev
final word:
Sop: hope I'm here for another ten or 20 years
Mayor: that's what she meant
Sop: places to go, places for dogs, bikes, skate boards
what a place
PASSED
8. Addition of 2385 Haywood Avenue ("Young House") and 5616 Westport Place ("Sykes House") to the Community Heritage Register (File:  2585-03-04)
RECOMMENDED:  be added to the WV Community Heritage Register, pursuant to Section 954 of the LGA
SMik: SLIDES in June 2006 Ccl adopted the Heritage Plan; Register established in 2007
May 171 nominations; Ccl has listed 39 resources
June 2009, conservation incentives est'd
expectation benefit, ongoing xxx ... eligible for future
voluntary process; staff will not be bringing anything forth without the owner
Young House: built 1914, new owners planning to restore original features
one of the oldest houses in WV and remaining in lower Dund
5616 Westport: a midcentury house built by architect Peter Kaffka
missed in inventory, hard to see from windshield survey
nominated by owners themselves; eligible for addn to the Register
owners have undertaken restoration work, interested in exploring xxx, retention and incentives
MS moved
Mayor: definitely something to celebrate -- were you going to say something?
MS: no, just going to vote
Mayor: in favour?
[CARRIES]
MS: want to add that as usual Mr Mikicich did a first class job with his report and his v succinct presentation tonight covered everything
Mayor: good to see the continued success of the work of that WG and our commitment to heritage
{Yes, Your Scribe was on the Heritage WG and do hope one is reinstated soon!  great group!}
9. Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4643, 2010 (Official Community Plan Amendment for Housing Pilot Program) (File:  1610-20-4643)
This bylaw received first reading at the June 7, 2010 regular Council Meeting and was the subject of a Public Hearing which closed on June 28, 2010.
        RECOMMENDED: be read a second and third time.
Mayor: anything to add?
Sokol: no
MClk: give steps
[Ev moved]
Mayor: seconder?
Ev: we've had a lot of discussion; in previous discussion v much in favour and still am
if we don't, we deny all the opps in the next sev years; a great pity
have invested so much human capital in work done to date
this really is the cornerstone of the progs we've anticipated
we've put forward as a pro-active Ccl, going to give us the opp to explore opps in the future.
SW: supporting this as well, culmination of two WGs, and probably before that as well
imp support WGs and staff work getting pilot projs off the ground
ML: I remain a little bit torn by this
being presented almost as an administrative requirement so we cd go forward with housing pilots and Mr Sokol said that an no reason to doubt that
can you articulate the process come to Ccl, set parameters
specifically we have not articulated nbrhd character and if we go forward we must xxx
want to be sure we're not opening a Pandora's Box allowing anything anywhere
xxx
Sokol: best is to go back
initial call for projects, ppl submitted proposals; WG; what was left on the list
those reviewed, then staff brought forward recs; two brought forward
staff have worked on
v public process; see no reason why, uh, in 3.1.B wd involve selection, following an open selection process; part of that wd be coming to Ccl to get bylaw changes
prior approval of Ccl
wrt nbrhd character, one been using looking at character immediately adjacent
working with some of the nbrs
how does it meet, not meet criteria
ML: zoning bylaws, on proj-by-proj basis or apply to all parts of District
Sokol: proj by proj; have one and whether to go forward
ML: what wd preclude an indiv being a proposal to develop their own lot
what wd stop me from saying I'd like to build a carriage house
Sokol: ppl can always come forward
staff look and see if in compliance and see if can go forward for Ccl consideration if rezoning required
ML: I cd do this; but wd have to go through the process
Sokol: need to go through a public process
ML: I was thinking of the non-pilot proj
Mayor: if you're looking at a diff form
ML: only one?
Sokol: if a pilot proj, this process, if not have to go through OCP, Ccl decide if merit
ML: this wd not impact that process
Mayor: good questions
Sop: Questions along same line
in WG scenario, been v exicited, not on shelf
long hard job of WG re housing, well received
once Ccl, thank those folks, then ours
major steps since 1912 as to how this cmnty is going to look xxx

{yup}

glaring questions for me down the road
first stages of amending the policy, housing, p47, replaced as a consequence: opps for residential redevt in existing nbrhds
last para is deleted and replaced, recognizes certain opps for xxx sites as set out in Policy 3, unique opps
by this addn and others; policy 4.1
is it your view by insertion of these statements, ev time in last 14 years, they can zero in on the OCP and it's like the rule, you haven't been here v many years. It's in the plan therefore it's safer.
are we obligated regardless if workable or not, inclusion right to have infill housing in the five categories stated by the WG
without a PH on each and ev one of those issues
Mayor: take that?
Sokol: I think I have this one
OCP is v strict and explicit as to what type can be allowed in residential areas in WV
changing to other zoning, Policy H3, strict policy how
what this proposed bylaw amendment, is a slight change to the OCP, limited on site by site basis, Ccl may allow something go ahead other than a sgl-fam home in a sgl-fam nbrhd
Sop: second question
two pilot projs, one withdrawn, don't know about other one
cmnty till when?
if someone says I've been selected and nbr says, no, I'm not having that
how many times going to take
are we on the right track with this scenario?
Sokol: the current pilot proj prog
we've gone through on potential; had four
two -- one withdrawn, still working with other proponent
as those wrap up, staff may look at other two
again Ccl will be involved in working on this; will remain a priority of staff as long as priority of Ccl
Sop: p 86 of the bylaw, adding 4.1, down to Item D: it states it MAY include, doesn't leave me with any certainty, projects wch require rezoning, devt permit, and/or variance permit, in wch the approval process provided in the LGA shall apply and no amendment to this OCP shall be required.
Can you explain that to me?
Sokol: once something is selected as a housing pilot proj, it is covered under this blanket OCP amendment, so no add'l OCP amendment wd be required, however that project may require rezoning or devt permit or a DVP, and if it does it has to go through the processes outlined in the LGA, and will need to go through the process in front of Ccl wch typically requires either a formal PH or public consultation.  Again, the decision lies with Ccl.
Sop: I have seven or eight more questions; leave for the time being
yesterday, went back to the two Kay Meek presentations
this is so important, xxx ...  wrt the fear
what impact is this going to have in the future and I don't think answered
left me in wonderment
you know me, I like to feel good xxx ...
Mayor: ccl procedure gives each mbr five min
Sop: I'm finished
TP: residents also suggested other opps such as encouraging
while serving as mortgage helpers for homeowners
see this as actually following through with what we did in 2004
gives us lots of opps, v cautious
in Seattle, over ten years only 15 {or was it ten in 15 years?}
Vancouver, laneway houses, but we're approaching in a diff way
MS: I was originally v supportive
but one of the roles of this Ccl surely is to evaluate xxx and staff time
we've committed to this, been huge, we don't have a plot proj moving to the next stage
all of that staff time; we have to eval if proceeding on right course
if this is successful, we've got a serious issue NOT????
think ev favours innovative creative soln to housing mix and ev support nbrhd character
think we need a road map
what we're doing now, looking at, blunt
passed the sec ste, makes sense, the ste cd be above the garage, that wd be a perfect pilot proj
suggest we start with our own land; create some of these on our own land
30th and Park Lane, suited to a garage, ste above, house further down the lot
advantage of our own land, all advantage goes to us
reluctant to speak against
got to have a staff report showing how to move this ahead
otherwise, a lot of staff time, bogged down b/c not nbrhd support
bothers me to be negative xxx
need a road map to move this forward
Mayor: that might be a follow-up motion
even if you're talking about our prop, you'd want it in our OCP to move forward
on behalf of cmnty we're xxx
Vancouver blanket not xxx; we 're different
Cclr Sop, it's a xxx
if Seattle done ten in 15 years, guarantee WV will be slower
whole process been designed for criteria; submit yourself and to public
legalizing sec stes has been on ev Ccl I've been on; first no, second pause, and now xxx
you mention KMC, spent ten years searching for a site
may be that we won't have a successful one xxx
our xxx
and particularly Cclr Sop, sorry, Cclr Smith
we cd create this opp for ourselves
in support, take seriously sense of caution and that's why good policy
Sop: respect what you said; not satisfied; deferral
Mayor: no seconder
Sop: losing my touch
PASSED
Sop opposed, saying not enough
MS: uh, staff report, or refer, not sure how to do this; guess that WG is not sitting
Mayor: status report on the pilot project including opps for us to bring forward municipally-held land as a pilot
MS moved amendment: yes, that's my motion.  If we do start with our own land then I think it's going to alleviate a lot of Ccl Sop's concerns
Mayor: seconder
Sop: second, may I comment?
Mayor: did you wish to say anything further?
MS: I've babbled long enough
Sop: perhaps with unanswered questions for me, looking at our own lands to do this, might be the valuable choice in the future
but with the passing of this OCP, if we chose and we decide better on if our own land, then we don't need the OCP amendment
Mayor: yes, I believe we wd; we're bound by own laws
Sop: not without discussion; you don't know that for sure
Mayor: I think I do

{ah, maybe it depends???  Remember the speaker who complained that there was no sign in front of the boat ramp about devt/change?  Was told Ccl/District doesn't have to post sign of changes.......}

Sop, amid laughter: I don't
Mayor: that's your problem
Sop: from what I'm reading here, it's seems entrenched and it will go on its own merits right into the sunset
Mayor: let's see if Cclr Smith's motion will pass and we can dig a little deeper
SW: by utilizing our own land, mean another devpr can come in
MS: we cd be quasi-dvpr, project, staff, putting out to tender
ML: v much support what Cclr Smith is proposing; many of the concerns coming from public if we come back and xxx
these missing pieces are going to be the death of this
Ev: happy to support if provide some clarity
but not all convinced as Cclr Walker said, doing on our own land is not nec the right approach, still nbrhd chr and xxx not nec hopeful that
I don't interrupt you
Sop: no I was
Ev: so
Mayor: xxx
Sop: one of my greatest fears, alternate choices for housing
choices of ppl always going to ... end
triplexes stratified as a choice in this cmnty
it's about density and money
Mayor: question
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
10. Fees and Charges Bylaw No. 4414, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4650, 2010 for Secondary Suites Annual Fee (File:  1610-20-4650)
RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. The report dated June 23, 2010 be received for information; and
2. "Fees and Charges Amendment Bylaw" be read a first, second and third time.
Sokol: no presentation
TP: compliance costs concern; lower fee for ppl who come forward
so if you choose not to legalize your suite, what consequences
more on utilities, more on xxx; more on taxes
comf with an annual fee like a biz fee, want to know the tipping point
cost recovery with bylaw enforcement
Mayor: to what extent preventing ppl from registering their stes
Sokol: this is the second, fee, initial inspection, low March to Sept $250 for cost of staff insp and doing report, after Sept goes up to $400
to date 81 stes applied, v slow at first
clarity of what fee will be
number waiting to when Sept 1st jump-up so some at that time
TP: some flexibility? if compliance not coming, amend?
Sokol: when adoption of sec stes, you asked staff report on a quarterly basis
June completed hope by end of July, if staff find ppl not registering
ppl can then decide if adjust annual fee
Mayor: Can I go round the table?
Sop: did we not meet with you and come up with $350?
Sokol: $265 and $X and Ccl felt $350 balance; recovers some costs and achieves some cmnty benefits; trying to balance those factors
SW: support where Cclr Panz is coming from
can get financially prohibitive; right now experiencing increases in our water utilities and as well our sewer and recycling
and in our prop taxes even if at zero per cent, the assessments are still higher
when we're continually going out to the public applying these fees, I certainly know with the fire inspection fees, as well, it becomes onerous to run a biz, have a sec ste.
I v much in favour of cost recovery for the District
think we have to look at the triple net experience
what are we trying to achieve by licensing the sec stes?
trying to achieve a sense of safety, a sense of compliance, a sense of monitoring, who's living in the District but I also think we have to be cognizant of the financial burden that we place on the residents.
If we don't have a better registration process by Sept, I do think we have to settle that
Again, we approved, I don't know how many thousands of dollars of new staff hire, I think over $100K, between a bylaw ofcr and an admin assistant to support this prog
81 registrations doesn't cover the cost at all
we may have to look at the biz model and might be lower fee to get higher compliance rate
Sokol: yes, we have brought on about one and a half staff to manage the sec ste prog
we've been concentrating to date is getting prog up and running, getting v clear checklists, getting info on web, advertising the prog and I think we'll see the number of stes registered go up
at some point, based on these quarterly reports
at some point flipping going toward more enforcement
tracking craigslist, etc, biggest drain is questions on sec stes
Mayor: just cognizant of the impact of this decision
hate to bring up oil tanks but we dropped them by $200 b/c want taken out and raised cost of leaving them in; keep us informed
BYLAWS
11. Local Area Service Lane Paving Construction (2900 Block Rosebery Avenue) Bylaw No. 4635, 2010 (File:  1610-20-4635)
        adopted
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
12. Consent Agenda Items
        RECOMMENDED:  be approved
Mayor: anyone want to speak on that?  Yes? so pulling out 2055 from the Consent Agenda
REPORTS FOR CONSENT AGENDA
12.1. Proposed Heritage Revitalization Agreement for 2055 Queens Av (File:  1010-20-10-011)
       RECOMMENDED: THAT the report from the Sr Cmnty Planner dated June 18 be received for info.
Sop: for my own info -- is it going to be a way of soliciting heritage houses by a gift of subdivision?
I look at this, I know the Toby house, I know the family, and I'm really supportive of the heritage of that building, but I also see another building there, the subdivision.
Is that going to be a recurrence of what we're going to expect ev time there's a heritage bldg?
SMik: potentially b/c the objective of the H strategy is to make H conservation an economically viable option to demolition and replacement
This particular site cd accommodate a 13,200sf home; the existing one is about 3200sf so without any provision in place that wd make this viable, we wd be losing a lot of these bldgs
Ev: v much in favour
but akin to Ccl Smith said; someone has spent a lot of effort thus far
hate that we staff and proponent believing
had a question -- do we charge the proponent a fee so far?
SMik: yes this is a Devt Applic and they have paid a fee
certainty, they have an application, process, wd be able to subdivide the prop
13 steps we've identified
in terms of applicant's .... stage, prelim design, etc; we're at stage 6
late Sept or early Oct for prelim review
Mayor: HRA, heritage; Ccl is really doing a good job
much of it is addressed, maintaining nbrhd character
14. REPORTS from MAYOR/CCLRS
Ev: opening of new art exhibit at Silk Purse
this had a diff flair, exhibition of caricatures
possible to go and see and know some of the ppl caricatured
I think you might know where I'm going -- three on NSh, wonderful characters
refreshing able to go see an art exhibit
Ashfin xxx ...  he took on a wonderful exhibition
encourage mbrs of public to go
ML: pleasure of representing, Ccl at Canada Day
good crowd, wonderful WV Youth Orchestra, formal leading into the event

{isn't it the WV Youth Band?}

mbrs of the Legion; John Weston MP spoke and MEv on behalf of DWV Ccl; tyvm
Mayor: thank you for filling in
Sop: concert was fantastic; leave the rest of you to comment
Mayor: you were life of party!
Sop: no, you were!
{CORRESPONDENCE ALERT!}
Sop: wd like to ask a question of Madam Clerk
see Correspondence on home page, and you said it wd be there for a while
will it ever appear for the public to see it somewhere else that is going to be fairly viable? is there a plan for that?
or is it going to stay somewhere, I don't know where things are with it.  Thank you.
{brave try, Sop! tyvm}
Mayor: I can answer that question b/c all four ways that the MClerk outlined last week are in place, but the easiest way to look at the Ccl Corresp is right on the front page of the webpage, under Your Cmnty; it's right there.  I think it needs to stay there b/c things fall below.
Also, you can get there through Your Govt.  You can also put Ccl Corresp in the search bar, boom, it's right there.
There are about four ways in, and that was Ccl's direction
It's v straightforward, it's all there, it goes all the way back to January
{straightforward? then later refers to somewhat buried and three clicks???}
it's really a credit to this Ccl
I apologize for the fact that it seemed a little bit buried as we were getting there, but Ms Scholes has done a first class job of making sure it's there.
Sop: no question of that

{good answer, Sop.  After saying a 'bit buried', effectively cancelling straightforward.... but as Sop says, it's not a question of "it's there" -- so is Everest -- it's a question of WHERE, and that's continually sidestepped.
The double-speak continues below by then claiming it's easier!
but in fact it isn't b/c Ccl has it with their ccl mtg material and public/website hasn't.}

 -- is the same that we, when we go and do our work on our computer as we do, has the public got the same exact access... or do they have to...?
Mayor: it's easier in a way. No, b/c it's right there under Your Cmnty, Ccl Corresp. Right on the webpage.
Sop: It comes right up? soon as you click it it comes up for the public?
Mayor: that's right.  You shd check it out.
Sop: b/c I clicked on it today, and it still has the New Correspondence thing; and I clicked on that and then I have to scroll down and had to click on the bottom of the page.
Mayor: Well, that's just how a website works;

{Full marks, Sop continues.  Failing grade, sorry to say, with "that's how a website works", not true.  A webmaster can design for what is wanted, but does need directions to do so to be sure.}

it doesn't go one click and you're at the Correspondence, but it's pretty--
Sop: --if you click on the homepage; what I'm asking for the public--
Mayor: --Yes--
Sop: --something else wd come up--
Mayor: --yup--
Sop: --then if they wd scroll where? to the bottom?
Mayor: it takes about three clicks: Ccl Corresp, Ccl Corresp, Ccl Corresp

{ah, progress; she now has noticed that it's not easy!}

wd be nice if it took wd take one click but I'm not the webmaster and I'm not sure if that's possible.

{True, the Mayor is not the webmaster and the way to find out if possible, if not sure, is to ask.}

Sop: on the agenda?
Mayor: that's a separate question

{and so the Mayor derails this question, the actual restoration being requested.  Made no sense to remove it from the agenda -- no wonder done suddenly, with no notice or discussion, and not even a motion at a public ccl mtg, ie done behind closed doors.
No wonder,
Probably realized there'd be opposition if not outrage.}

let's ask Ms Scholes
MClk: we find the same thing, and we are investigating ways to reduce the number of clicks it takes to get to the page,

{oh, good.  A glimmer of light.  Shd we offer to help???  Given the salaries for last year just released one might be shocked at this lack of competence, however this may instead be lack of will.}
 
and what Cclr Sop is referring to, is it does go to the explanatory page first and from that it takes you to the Ccl Corresp page

{IOW roundabout; totally unnecessary.  In fact need not be anywhere else than on the agenda.
At first I thought, when the Mayor said we just had to scroll down when looking at the ccl mtg agenda, that she was unaware the Correspondence was not there at all, not even mentioned, but now -- unless this is rectified for the next ccl mtg -- maybe the Mayor's intention all along was not to have it on the agenda.  Surely if the Mayor said she wanted it on the agenda, it wd be done.  We know at least Cclrs Smith and Sop want it returned.  What's the holdup?  Who are the feet draggers?}

Mayor: Good. thank you

{oh, a swiftie.  The Mayor has a v gd memory.  Hard to believe she forgot about Sop's query about the agenda and Sop too polite to ask and speak again since the Mayor's gone on to another topic.  Awkward, hm?}

I wanted to just comment on Lilith
v fortunate where we cd host our WGs, donors, mixed bag; what they have in common
thank you for mbrs of Ccl being there
didn't know each other
no real security issues -- maybe b/c it was about 70% women
transportation worked beautifully
68 youth volunteers; per diem
got to go to concern  xxx  ... great team effort
particular for Christy Rosta and X Bailey
22 xxx  had ... to get to Oregon
paddling xxx; First Nations ppl
came to us from Indian Arm going to Musqueam next day
full of First Nations
our police chief paddle banging for being partly Mohawk; got big round of applause
So -- two things, racing and xxx through Salish Sea as of July 15h
{Renaming}
15.  PQP/COMMENTS
Mayor: any? I see none, then, oh you are
{three women got up; but I'd signed up}
CR:  Carolanne Reynolds, Editor of West Van Matters
First of all, congratulations for adding the heritage houses to the [H] Inventory; that's really great news.  Of course it's great to see the Heritage Revitalization Agreement going through.
Just one comment about the pilot projects.
They did spend a lot of time.  There were two pilot projs, one's withdrawn and the other one, as you heard last week, the nbrs were v upset about.
It's not that I'm against pilot projs, I don't want anybody to think that, but I'm glad you're having a pilot process before the pilot projects, as Cclr Smith suggested b/c there still are some uncertainties in the cmnty, and ppl can come up with things, for example -- and not that I'm against this either -- but on Esquimalt that has, that's sgl-fam nbrhd and it's got, you know, ten units going in -- so the uncertainty.
If you do it with your own land, that will help.
Now, with the other one.
This is baby steps, and I'm really glad and I'm so pleased that there is a place on the website and it says "Correspondence is available".  But it's still isn't -- and I'm glad that the MClk also said that they wd look to, you know, how they cd do this and make it easier.
It's really
{stopped speaking here b/c CAO has gone to Mayor's seat and they are conversing.  Feel I shdn't speak when they are and maybe affect their train of thought}
are you finished?
did you have a question for me then?
{was waiting to see if it was a question about what I was saying}
MS: everybody's hanging off your every word.
CR: well...  two words
Anyway, the simplest way, and I hope you will do this, on your agenda.  The Correspondence has always been on the agenda itself.
Mayor: I realize that, and I realize that you come every week and ask us that.

{So what's so difficult? why do other things instead pretending that the Correspondence is back?  At least my questions got Correspondence actually put somewhere on the DWV website, albeit in several places ppl wd never think of looking esp since accustomed to the Corresp being on the agenda, so we're edging closer and now just needs just a bit more push, no?}

Ccl had made a decision to take it off the agenda but in no way to keep it from the public.  We've put it everywhere we can think of on the website,

{between astonishment and laughter in disbelief!  Put it everywhere they can think of on the website?  Well, why not think of the agenda when ppl have been complaining about nowhere, then somewhere no one wd guess, then nearby?  Everywhere they can think of? Purposely avoiding the rational spot it has always been in?
Put everywhere except where asked, restored?
Now one is being led to think there's some hidden motivation not to have Corresp as part of the ccl mtg record.}

and I believe since we've done that, of the 200 pieces of correspondence, Ccl has brought forward ten of particular interest, wch we're all perfectly prepared to discuss, b/c we believe that's the most efficient, efficacious way to conduct the public's business, so a mbr of Ccl may wish to come forward and suggest that it go back on the ccl agenda,

{Both Cclrs Smith and Sop have asked that the Corresp be restored.  Let's hope two more speak up.  A pity such a loss to Ccl openness, transparency, access to information........}

but we're keeping the ccl agenda tight, focused, and all the correspondence that we receive fully available for the public.
CR: yes, there's no problem with that.  If the problem is having it tight, you can have one link on the agenda to where you have it now, but if you have a list of what the topics are, that helps ppl know.  It will not take-- it will still be tight, you'll only have a list.
The links the way you have now, but you have--
that is material that is discussed at the ccl mtg and I just don't understand the rationale to remove it from the agenda.  I have no problem with how it's been shortened, I have no problem with it just being a list, I have no problem with--
{btw, fyi the way they have the Corresp now, not there so easy to copy and paste for us, but wd be no problem for DWV staff.}
Mayor: --well,
CR: --but it shd be part of the mtg
Mayor: --I really think it's, at some point, we need to draw this discussion to a close b/c it is a Ccl decision.  So, any mbr of Ccl may bring forward a motion to change that decision with a seconder.

{that'a a challenge, councillors!}

But for now, actually, the ccl correspondence is the most straightforward thing to access on the Web,

{incredible claim but even if true, the issue is WHERE the Corresp is, no longer whether (several cclrs asked it be put on the website b/c unaware it wasn't there at all).  We're tantalizingly close.}

and so there's-- that's our decision
CR: right, so--
Mayor: --I don't want to debate it with you
CR: absolutely; thank you very much -- and we hope that Ccl will review this.  Thank you..
Mayor: thank you
Mayor: Haven't seen you in a while -- let me guess, it's about the Aquatic Ctr
Marianna Ussner: yes, v good
actually was just passing and occurred to me thinking of writing a letter but thought I'd come in; wrote to Mgr of Aq Ctr and not satisfied with the answers.
The sauna has not been cleaned for 18 mos minimum
I have sent maybe two official letters and a few notices
Mayor: May I suggest that the Director will follow up
MU: Dir of the Pool followed up with me today, Colleen, good person but she doesn't understand you have to clean in the pool
that sauna, she send another email to me today, she's been picking gum off the sauna and doing a little bit of cleaning  but we have to wait to August, I'm not prepared to wait
Mooi: I'd be happy to talk to staff and get back the resident
MU: I'm not finished though; a couple of other things; that's great
the water quality is v poor; had such a rash, and I've had infections last year
Mayor: may I ask another question
MU: No, I want the Ccl to know about this
the water is not kept clean --  on Saturday nights they save on maintenance but not using the dolphin [?] and not filtering, cleaning that pool
you have to cancel, can't swim on Sundays; this stuff is imp
they don't make ppl shower before they go in; quite frankly it's supposed to be an ozone pool and there are lots of chemicals.  I had to get out again today and yesterday so again didn't swim.
It's not acceptable
Ccl has to know about this
It's your Aq Ctr; it's supposed to be, I remember--
Mayor: ask Ms Mooi if she has any other info
Mooi: I'm not aware of this
MU: no, you wdn't be
Mooi: happy to look into
MU: are you the director? You're the Dir/Parks; I didn't know that
Mayor: that's what I meant
MU: but I've gone the low road and nothing's been done; simply not acceptable; it's disgusting for WV
Mayor: we will aim to maintain the high standard that the public expects and that we hold ourselves to--
MU: --18 mos of not cleaning the sauna
Mayor: and the Dir/Parks will get back to you tomorrow
MU: see if you can get them to clean it tomorrow -- power cleanser in there? and I also suggested, if they can't clean it, I'll get a work party myself.
Mayor: thank you.  Dara McGowan
D McGowan: apologize for coming in late
Mayor: may I suggest you use the mike
DMcG: can't hear me?
Mayor: we can but others might not be able to
D McG: wrt on-leash area for the seawalk
love dogs, am sure we all do here, but seems these dogs have priority over us humans as a species
eg Capilano estuary is fish habitat, sanctuary, now we have depletion of the stocks
v imp, Capilano is habitat area for fish to feed, and route to spawn; imp animals not allowed in there
dogs going in, going on for years, and cmnty's not aware of that
Mayor: are you referring to the off-leash dog park
D McG: yes [explains where]
re dogs being on leash, I have been bitten by a dog on the beach area there
it's owner was trying to get on leash b/c the dog jumped out of the truck
wasn't punctured so didn't get a rabies shot
point is second time same owner had difficulty handling her dog, parked in the parking area
Mayor: may I tell you what we decided tonight?
D McG: I haven't finished
that surface, not healthy to walk on asphalt; arthritis b/c impervious
the best surface is area designated for dogs to the right of the seawall, all the way up to 25th
notice trimmed back once a year; when it is trimmed back unfortunately the pollutants like blackberry and ivy are just left to continue to grow
The emissions that can come off the rail line there, there's not enough shrubbery to prevent the emissions from the rlwy lines and the trains going into the lungs of the pedestrians going into that area
I suggest wd be nice for us human species to be able to walk on that surface
nice to have it trimmed back maybe twice a year
I congratulate the cmnty on doing the cleanup
One more suggestion
there is a heritage house that might be overlooked that may be coming down
Heritage is as we all know, the number 1 tourist attraction in the world
I commend commitment to do something about the dogs; have a nice evening.
[MU got up again]
Mayor: anyone else? no, sorry; I'll ask Cclr Smith for adjournment
MU: only once?
16.  ADJOURNMENT 9:50

===  CCL MTG AGENDA July 19th ===
3pm in M Hall MFCR and 7pm in Ccl Chamber
No, not a typo -- the closed session will start at 3pm -- four hours of in camera?  Who'd guess they'd want to keep that much secret at one mtg???  Planning the magic act to pull money out of the hat to cover M deficit?
3:00 PM
1.  CALL TO ORDER OPEN SESSION
2.  EXCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC
RECOMMENDED: THAT in the public interest, members of the public be excluded from part of the July 19, 2010 regular Council Meeting on the basis of matters to be considered under the following section of the Community Charter:
90. (1) A part of a council meeting may be closed to the public if the subject matter being considered relates to or is one or more of the following:
3.   labour relations or other employee relations;
4.   the security of the property of the municipality;
5.   the acquisition, disposition or expropriation of land or improvements, if the council considers that disclosure could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the municipality;
11. negotiations and related discussions respecting the proposed provision of a municipal service that are at their preliminary stages and that, in the view of the council, could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the municipality if they were held in public.
3.  ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION
7:00 PM
Following conclusion of the closed session, the following items will be considered:
4.  RECONVENE OPEN SESSION
5.  APPROVAL OF AGENDA July 19
6.  ADOPTION OF MINUTES
June 28, 2010 Special Council Meeting; and  July 5, 2010 Regular Council Meeting.
7.  DELEGATION
A. Abramson and G. Tolliday, North Shore Restorative Justice Society (File:  0115-20-NVRJ1)
                2009 Annual Report.
REPORTS
8. Annual Report 2009 and 2009 Annual Budget Amendment Bylaw No. 4653, 2010 (File: 0300-01 / 1610-20-4653)
                A presentation will be provided.
Call for Public Input - Submissions and Questions
RECOMMENDED:
THAT Council receive the Annual Report for the year ended December 31, 2009, as attached as Appendix A to the report dated July 8, 2010 from the Acting Director of Finance.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT "2009 Annual Budget Amendment Bylaw No. 4653, 2010" be read a first, second and third time.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT Financial Information Act 2009 Reports be approved, as attached as Appendix C to the report dated July 8, 2010 from the Acting Director of Finance.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT:
WHEREAS on April 6, 2009 Council adopted 5 Year Financial Plan Bylaw No. 4592, 2009 approving capital expenditures totalling $3,099,323 and with funding to be provided from the Capital Facilities Fund;
AND WHEREAS the actual amount expended was $1,260,975 for the following approved capital projects:
Actual Budget
Eagle Island Docks              $ 78,374                $ 50,000
Public Safety Building Renovations      $ 196,751       $ 300,000
Civic Facilities Review $ 29,962                $ 150,000
Fire Hall Major Improvements            $ 164,890       $ 200,000
Child Care Hub - Ambleside*             $ 6,582         $ 210,400
Child Care Hub - Gordon House*  $ 38,305                $ 119,600
Seniors Envelope/Roof   $ 727,638       $ 1,875,000
Hydraulic Rock Breaker  $ 18,473                $ 19,000
* cost shared project
NOW THEREFORE Council resolves as follows:
Council approves the expenditure of $1,260,975 from the Capital Facilities Fund to fund 2009 capital projects as budgeted in 5 Year Financial Plan Bylaw No. 4592, 2009.
9. Development Variance Permit Application No. 10-018 (2972 Park Lane)
(File:  1010-20-10-018)
At the June 21 regular mtg Council received the report dated June 10 from the Community Planner and set the date for consideration for July 19, 2010.
Reports received up to July 15, 2010:
Development Variance Permit Application No. 10-018 (2972 Park Lane) June 10; for Ccl June 21
Written Submissions received up to July 15, 2010: None
PRESENTATION BY APPLICANT
CALL FOR PUBLIC INPUT
RECOMMENDED:
THAT all written and verbal submissions ...  be received for information.
If Council wishes a further staff report, then:
RECOMMENDED:  THAT staff report back
OR
RECOMMENDED:
THAT DVP Applic to allow construction of a new house, pool deck, accessory building and landscape walls, be approved.
10. Development Variance Permit Application No. 10-039 (925 Sentinel Drive) (File:  1010-20-10-039)
At the June 28 regular mtg Council received the report dated June 17 from the Manager of Community Planning and set the date for consideration for July 19, 2010.
Reports received up to July 15, 2010:
Development Variance Permit Application No. 10-039 (925 Sentinel Drive); June 17; for Ccl June 28
Written Submissions received up to July 15, 2010:  No items received to date.
PRESENTATION BY APPLICANT
CALL FOR PUBLIC INPUT
RECOMMENDED:
THAT all written and verbal submissions ... be received for information.
If Council wishes a further staff report, then:
RECOMMENDED: THAT staff report back
OR RECOMMENDED:
THAT DVP Applic ... to allow construction of a new dwelling, be approved.
11. Development Variance Permit Application No. 09-032 (1395 Haywood Ave) (File: 1010-20-09-032)
At the June 28 regular mtg Council received the report dated June 16 from the Community Planner and set the date for consideration for July 19, 2010.
Reports received up to July 15, 2010:
Development Variance Permit Application No. 09-032 (1395 Haywood Ave); June 16; for Ccl June 28
Written Submissions received up to July 15, 2010:
NAME / DATE / FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION:
S. Cullen / July 13 / July 19; M. & A. Best / July 13 / July 19; K. Parker / July 13 / July 19
PRESENTATION BY APPLICANT
CALL FOR PUBLIC INPUT
RECOMMENDED:
THAT all written and verbal submissions ... be received for information.
If Council wishes a further staff report, then:
RECOMMENDED: THAT staff report back
OR RECOMMENDED:
THAT DVP Applic to allow construction of a new house and detached garage, be approved.
12. BC Ferries Inc. Request for Order of Non-Enforcement of Noise Control Bylaw - Power Washing After-hours (File:  1605-15)
RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. The report dated July 9, 2010 from the Manager of Permits, Inspections and Bylaws regarding BC Ferry Services Inc. request for an Order of Non Enforcement of the Noise Control Bylaw - Power Washing After-hours be received.
2. Council approve the request from BC Ferry Services Inc. for an Order of Non Enforcement of the Noise Control Bylaw No. 4404, 2005 Section 6.1.2 (b) on
Friday July 23, 2010, Saturday July 24, 2010 and Sunday July 25, 2010 in order to conduct late night power washing; of the waiting area concrete surface and the planters around the Administration area: the Administration building including the outside windows; foot passenger walkway windows and the Control Tower.
13. Animal Control and Licence Bylaw No. 4545, 2008, Amendment Bylaw No. 4654, 2010 (Ambleside Dog Path) (File:  1610-20-4654)
RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. The report dated July 13, 2010 be received for information; and
2. Animal Control and Licence Amendment Bylaw (Appendix A) be read a first, second, and third time.
14. Cemetery Regulation Bylaw No. 4651, 2010 (File:  1610-20-4651)
RECOMMENDED:
THAT [it] be introduced and read a first, second, and third time.
15. Fees and Charges Bylaw No. 4414, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4652, 2010 (Cemetery Fees) (File:  1610-20-4652)
RECOMMENDED ... be read a first, second, and third time.
BYLAWS for ADOPTION
16. Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4643, 2010 (Official Community Plan Amendment for Housing Pilot Program) (File: 1610-20-4643)
This bylaw was the subject of a Public hearing held on June 28, 2010. The Hearing has closed and Council is not permitted to receive any further submissions, in any form.
This bylaw received first reading at the June 7, 2010 Council Meeting, was the subject of a Public Hearing which was held and closed on June 28, 2010, and received second and third reading on July 5, 2010.
17. Fees and Charges Bylaw No. 4414, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4650, 2010 (Secondary Suites) (File:  1610-20-4650)
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
18. Consent Agenda Items --  No items.
OTHER ITEMS
19. No items.
{This is where a mbr of Ccl can bring up a letter from Correspondence for discussion; however not only are the letters not attached to the agenda or the agenda item, there isn't even a list -- surely the minimum that cd be done so the public has all the material for the mtg, just as Ccl has.}
20.  REPORTS from MAYOR/CCLRS  21. PQP/COMMENTS  22. ADJOURNMENT

===  ANIMALWATCH  ===
BC's Wildlife:  BC has 75% of Canada's bird species and 70% of its freshwater fish species.
+  WHITE RAVENS
Another rare white raven spotted near Qualicum Beach
        by MIKE YIP, OCEANSIDE STAR  --  JULY 5, 2010
Some say it's the water they drink. Others claim it's the pure island air. We may never know, but it doesn't matter. Another white raven has been born in Qualicum Beach.
White ravens are rare all over the world except in and around this area of Vancouver Island. There isn't a documented history on these birds, but they've been in the area for years.
Golfers from nearby Morningstar Golf Course have reported sightings of white ravens for more than a decade. One golfer said he saw and photographed four of them perched on a branch about eight years ago. Another said he saw a white raven that had mated with a black raven and produced mottled brown offspring.
Three years ago, I was invited to a small farm in nearby Hilliers where I saw and photographed two young white ravens.
Two years ago, a pair of white ravens and their three black siblings frequented the ball fields behind Ravensong Pool.
This year, there seems to be only one new one, and it has also been hanging around the ball fields. There are possibly many others.
Although science may not always have the answer, the scientific explanation would be that the parents, common ravens, both have a genetic defect that sometimes produces chicks that lack normal pigmentation.
The odds of two such ravens mating would probably be similar to winning the lottery, but once that happens there is no reason not to expect the regular occurrence of white offspring.
Common ravens are monogamous. Under ideal conditions, the parents of the white ravens can live for more than 30 years and probably produce offspring for at least 20 years. If the offspring is all white with pink eyes, it is an albino. If the offspring isn't all white, or doesn't have pink eyes, it is referred to as leucistic. All five of the white ravens I have seen had blue eyes, which means they are leucistic.
There are many legends and beliefs associated with white ravens. Many involve the concept of the trickster or villain white raven being turned to black.
One belief is that the sighting of a white raven foretells the destruction of the world. With all the wars and environmental destruction going on, it might not be too far from the truth.
Mike Yip is a photographer, writer and publisher of Vancouver Island Birds. http://www.vancouverislandbirds.com/
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Another+rare+white+raven+spotted+near+Qualicum+Beach/3236437/story.html
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+  CAMELS
Numbers fall just as vital world role awaits
The practical camel and its culture
In a desertifying world short of water, the utilitarian camel, and the ancient cultures that depend on it, offer a way to use land too poor to sustain anything else
                          by Ed Emery from http://mondediplo.com/2010/07/20camels
The camel has long had a special place in the imagination of the West, from the Greek historian Herodotus telling a story about Indians using fast-running camels to defeat dog-sized, man-eating ants that guarded gold (1), through the Three Magi journeying to Christ's birth, Lawrence of Arabia and the desert chic of Camel cigarettes....
+  RAT PUPS  --  Subject: Rat Mothering
Interesting information about love and attention; pity the cute photo is missing from the website; it was in the newspaper.
Good mothering passes benefits across generations, study reveals
        BY RANDY SHORE, VANCOUVER SUN JULY 14, 2010
 Rat mothers who touch and groom their offspring create happier, smarter rats -- not just for one generation, but for successive generations, according to researcher Michael Meaney. Good mothering, in other words, changes the DNA of generations of rats.
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Good+mothering+passes+benefits+across+generations+study+reveals/3274090/story.html#ixzz0u9biboAp

===  SALMONWATCH   ===
***  DFO plans new rules to police salmon farming
Fisheries department adding 50 staff in new $8-million section
BY SCOTT SIMPSON, VANCOUVER SUN  --  JULY 13, 2010
The Department of Fisheries and Oceans expects to spend upwards of $8 million a year on a new program to manage and police the British Columbia aquaculture industry, the department announced on Monday.
Acting on a 2009 B.C. Supreme Court ruling, the department is taking over from the provincial government as manager of B.C.'s roughly $400-million aquaculture industry including salmon farming....
Salmon farming accounts for 90 per cent of the aquaculture industry's revenue. It has been dogged by controversy since its inception in the early 1980s, with opponents suggesting it is contributing to the decline of wild Pacific salmon.
The provincial government has been a strong proponent of salmon farming but in 2009 was removed from its role as manager of the industry when conservationists persuaded the B.C. Supreme Court that aquaculture was a fishery and therefore exclusively under the control of the federal Crown.
The feds have until Dec. 18 to develop a regime to regulate the fishery and this week announced a 60-day consultation period in which salmon farmers, first nations, and the public can comment on proposed regulations....
Craig Orr, executive director of Watershed Watch Salmon Society, said he is concerned that DFO has not taken a position on shifting from open pen to closed containment pens for raising salmon.
"In Europe they have not recovered their wild fish populations despite coming up with regulations that are probably the best in the world for open net cage -- and we have smaller and more vulnerable wild fish."
Entire article: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/plans+rules+police+salmon+farming/3269529/story.html
***  PACIFIC AQUACULTURE REGULATIONS
        Date: July 13, 2010 3:42:47 PM PDT
...  The new proposed Pacific Aquaculture Regulations have been posted to the Canada Gazette website at (http://www.gazette.gc.ca/cg-gc/about-sujet-eng.html for a 60-day public review period.  The contact is Ed Porter, PAR-RPA@dfo-mpo.gc.ca.  ...
Below is an article from today on a new salmon feedlot disease in the Atlantic.  They report over 400 outbreaks in 11 years and it is now in the wild.  Scientists just identified the virus as HSMI and it is generally fatal to fish.  Obviously, the eggs imported to BC have not been checked for this virus. Will there be a response from our Minister of Fisheries on how we can be sure this has not spread here?
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/07/salmon-disease-identified/
I just published this article below on the secrecy of salmon feedlot disease outbreaks in BC.
http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2010/07/12/FishFarmSecrecy/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thetyee+(The+Tyee)
The Cohen Inquiry is a massive undertaking. We have requested salmon feedlot disease outbreak information so it can be examined in relationship to the declining Fraser sockeye productivity. Hopefully they will comply.  DFO genetic research is reporting that Fraser sockeye are being strongly challenged by a virus, but they do not know which virus yet.
You can follow this work at www.salmonaresacred.org  Alexandra Morton  www.alexandramorton.ca
===  WEBWATCH  ===  We're eating catfish! had a basa fillet lately?
Vietnam's popn has gone in 35 yrs from 35M to 85M; looks like we're eating renamed catfish
This just sent to me, commenting: "Note the basa & tiger prawns are listed!  If you eat fish you will be interested in watching this video."  http://www.vimeo.com/11817894
===  INFObits  ===
***  Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:43:17 -0400  --  Subject: Happy Birthday Dalai Lama
The Dalai Lama turns 75 today. For decades he has given us all hope -- setting a generous example of wisdom, non-violence and compassion for a better world.
The spiritual leader of Tibet has spent over 50 years in exile, and he continues to preach peace and compassion. Let's share with him how much the world values him and is inspired by his life.
***  2010 July 18 -- UN declares world's first International Nelson Mandela Day
                        http://www.angel-invest.us/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=32918
===  NEWSWATCH  ===  The Economist: Photos
Gaza besieged
Photographer Bruno Stevens on Gaza's intricate network of tunnels and circumventing Israel's stifling trade restrictions http://audiovideo.economist.com/?fr_story=1684900c3d62f8125d39b2da7bad4d2c6cef1fc2&rf=bm

===  HERITAGEWATCH  ===
***  Visit West Vancouver's unique heritage at the home of west coast icon B.C. Binning!  Renowned for his virtually unparalleled ability to amalgamate art, architecture, and education, Binning was in the vanguard of West Coast modern art and architecture.  Come view the lush gardens, innovative architecture, and stunning view (2968 Mathers Cres).  Carpooling and public transit are recommended as parking is limited.
Tours (limited to ten): Wednesdays (1pm), Saturdays (11am & 2pm); July 7th to August 28th. 
Reservations advised; add'l info contact Kerrie Taylor at 604 733 2313 or ktaylor@conservancy.bc.ca
***  It's RoyalTea-by-the-Sea time again! Saturday July 31 from 2 to 4pm in Dundarave Park
                Reservations: Heritage West Van at 922 4400 or reservations@RoyalTea.ca

===  MAIKU  ===  2010 July 4/5 -- two politi-ku and one rose-ku

        complain about your country?
                        it's only as good
                                as each one of us                                          
ruffled roses beam
        under and through green palm fronds                                                                                    
                                        intense magenta

so easy to blame others  /  as if not involved  /  or responsible

===  QUOTATIONS / THOUGHTS / PUNS  ===

Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them.
                -- Paul Valery, French poet, essayist, and philosopher (1875 - 1945)
It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world and moral courage so rare                                                                         
                        -- Mark Twain, Americanauthor and humorist (1835-1910)
Knowledge is Freedom: hide it, and it withers; share it, and it blooms.  -- P. Hill
I am only a person who limits myself to raising a stone to check underneath. It isn't my fault monsters appear every now and then.                                                     
     -- Jose Saramago, Nobel-laureate Portuguese playwright, novelist, and journalist (1922 - 2010 June 18)
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says, "I'll try again tomorrow."
                -- Mary Anne Radmacher-Hershey
To lead does not mean to dominate, but to fulfill a duty
-- Lucius Annaeus Seneca, known as Seneca the Younger; Roman Stoic philosopher, statesman, dramatist (3BC - 65AD)
Like cars in amusement parks, our direction is often determined through collisions.
                -- Yahia Lababidi, (American?) aphorist, poet, author (b. 1973)
The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life      .
                -- Muhammad Ali, former American boxer (b 1942)                
There is one rule for politicians all over the world: don't say in power what you say in opposition; if you do, you only have to carry out what the other fellows have found impossible.
                -- John Galsworthy, English novelist and playwright (1867 - 1933)                      

        If you want to make a good Hamlet, you gotta break a few legs.
I met the woman of my dreams at the base of Mount Vesuvius. She is the lava my life.
It's not that the man did not know how to juggle, he just didn't have the balls to do it.
Life ain't fair for a baby. They always get the bum wrap!
To write with a broken pencil is pointless.